Pagano-Papismus; Or, an Exact Parallel Between Rome-Pagan and Rome-Christian, in Their Doctrines and Ceremonies

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Mr. Walker. I desire then another Adversary, some of the Priests here present, that we may dispute on equal terms; I hold the cal­ling of a Protestant Preacher and Divines, more honourable then a­ny Popish Priesthood; and therefore if your Priests think them­selves too good to dispute with me, you shall not brag that your Lay­men are fit matches to dispute with Protestant Preachers and Di­vines.

Thirdly, Some things they do as Christians, assenting to the authority of Scriptures, and teaching and practising many things consonant to the truth and tenour thereof, so many of them (even the most Antichristian as the Jesuites) have written divers godly discourses and commentaries upon many Books of the Bible, and some upon all, which are very conducible to the understanding of the Sacred Text. A defence of the Right of Tithes against sundry late scandalous Pamphlets, by E. B. printed by George Miller, 1646. in 4 to. First, they must be learned in the Learned Languages, in Arts, and Histories, in Textual and Polemical Divinity; for they may in conflict be put to it, to make use of all the learning they have. Secondly, Some things they did as men ingenuously educated, and endowed with knowledge of Arts, and Tongues, and Hi­stonies, and so many who are in their Religion and Profession Popish, have written divers excellent Books and Discourses of all sorts. Thirdly, But if there were a perfect copy of the Dispute made up by the Doctor and him, that copy was committed to Mr. O. his hand to be promoted to the Press, and no copy kept, whereby it might be known to be truely printed: such was the Doctors candid and suspectless dealing with his adversary, which laid a great engagement upon him, of fair and ingenuous cor­respondence with him again.To them was delivered a Book by Granvell, given to Caesar, as he said, by some good man; the Heads whereof he would have them to consider, which were, Of the Creation of Man, and his Integrity of Nature before the Fall, Of Free-will, Of the cause of Sin, Of Original Sin, Of Justification of a sinner, Of the Church, Signs, and Authority thereof, Of the Word, Repen­tance, Of the Authority of the Church in Interpretation of Scri­pture, Of Absolution, Matrimony, Of the Sacraments, Of Or­der, Of Images, The Mass, Administration of Sacraments, Of Discipline of the Church, Ministers and People. Eccius erat impatiens at (que) morosus, nam & librum fa­stidiebat, & collegas minime probabat qui egerant rem diligenter, & reconciliarunt multa, nec illa quidem levia doctrinae capita. Ibid. In this Colloquie Eccius shewed himself impatient and froward, and disdained the Book, and disliked his Collegues: yet they handled the matter diligently, and reconciled some Heads of Doctrine of no small moment. Anno 1546.

Printer's name from STC. Mostly paginated with even numbers on rectos. "Puritano-papismus" (caption title) has separate pagination; register is continuous. Reproduction of the original in the Henry E. Huntington Library and Art Gallery. Notwithstanding the issues and effects of some Disputations have been more successful (besides those which were carried on by a Divine Power against Humane or Devillish malignity) as that of Octavius a Christian, with Cecilius an Heathen, set forth by Minutius Felix; whereof we have observed before, that some take that for a real story, some for a pious discourse com­posed by Minutius himself Dialogue-wise, under the borrowed names of Caecilium superstitiosis vanitatibus e­tiamnum in­haerentem di­sputatione gravissima ad veram religio­nem reforma­vit Octavius: sic Minutius Felix Conclus. Dialog. Tom. 9. Bibliothec. Patrum, col. 22. Octavius a Christian, and Cecilius an Heathen: the effect whereof, whether it were historicall, or poeticall, or moral, was such as was answerable to such convincing premises, viz. that Cecilius converted by Octavius from superstitious vanities, they parted with mutual congratulation, and Minutius thereby accounted himself Felix, y rejoycing with and for them both.CHAP. I. How some have been and are averse from, or adverse to disputations in Religion: how farre and for what reasons. The twelfth day Stars shall fall from Heaven, and shall spread out raies of fire; on this day, it is said, that all the beasts shall come to the field howling, and shall not eat nor drink. The Worcester petition to the Parliament for the Mi­nistry of England defended, for Tho Vnderhill, by Fr. Ty­tan, 1653. in 4 to. Answ. Not so neither; for in the primitive times, when Chri­stianity was persecuted, Mr. Fox Martyr. vol. 1. p. 732. col. 2. 22 Bishops of Rome for it were mar­tyred one after another, from the Apostles time downward, to the end of the third Century; and it will be no good manners neither in morality nor Christianity to call them Antichristian, who laid down their lives for Christs sake. Puritano-papismus: or a Discouerie of Puritan-papisme: made by way of Dialogue or Conference betweene a Protestant and a Puritane,’ London (two editions), 1605, 4to and 8vo.